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Tom Scott

Ай мурун

4 minutes remaining. Then 15 seconds. Then 5 hours. Why can't computers just tell you how long something's going to take? • MORE BASICS: kgpost.info/local/PL96C35uN7xGLLeET0dOWaKHkAlPsrkcha
Written with Sean Elliott SeanMElliott/ • Graphics by William Marler wmad.co.uk
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Tom Scott
Tom Scott Ай мурун
I'm having to film back in the Tiny Room against green-screen again, as lockdown means the Centre for Computing History is closed! Hopefully they'll be open again soon, although that depends on a very different kind of progress...
Culiynl
Culiynl 12 күн мурун
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RanMind YT
RanMind YT 12 күн мурун
why do you private your videos before you upload them
Michael Conroy
Michael Conroy 19 күн мурун
How did you put in the time estimate of this video in the script as you were recoring? I slowed down the video speed to .25 but can't see where you may have stitched two takes together.
NoobKing
NoobKing 22 күн мурун
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PrxjectMeme
PrxjectMeme 24 күн мурун
Why does my phone tell me that this comment was posted before the video was?
YaBoy •
YaBoy • Саат мурун
Putting my finger over the progress bar to see if its moving
Vex989
Vex989 11 саат мурун
Steam installing a game be like: 1 minute left -- 2 hours left -- 5 days left -- 6 minutes left
agustinbs
agustinbs Күн мурун
Are you reporting from 1998?
DG Secret
DG Secret 2 күн мурун
Tom Scott : Why Progress Bars Don't Move Smoothly Me : Wondering why the progress bar on the title doesn't move
Peto
Peto 2 күн мурун
0:06 WAS THAT A LEGO RACER 2 LOADING BAR ??????
KoGa
KoGa 2 күн мурун
"Why can't computers just tell me how long something is going to take?" Because progress bars don't show you time... they show (suprise!) progress.
Rory M
Rory M 2 күн мурун
Shout out to those 99 years that I was told it was gonna take for my game to open when I was 8.
P Church
P Church 2 күн мурун
This is why I leave and do something else when I’m downloading something. If it takes 5 minutes or 2 hours I’ll have something nice to come back to once I remember
GigaGame
GigaGame 3 күн мурун
who needs a progress bar when u have a gaming fridge that can download anything almost instantaneously
YY YELLOW
YY YELLOW 3 күн мурун
Why this guy is soo much underrated
karehaqt
karehaqt 3 күн мурун
Good old Microsoft Minutes
Deconimus
Deconimus 3 күн мурун
How was the halting problem not mentioned in this video?
KysterPSY
KysterPSY 4 күн мурун
Loved the Sopranos kinda ending.
Pat Smash
Pat Smash 4 күн мурун
My loading bar just goes backwards
Chane
Chane 6 күн мурун
looking at you STEAM
A Skellington
A Skellington 6 күн мурун
LOADING GEOMETRIES 62%
Yajihba
Yajihba 7 күн мурун
Someone tell computer making people to put this when turning on a computer after shutting it down
Lordlouckster
Lordlouckster 7 күн мурун
Solution: Have individual progress bars for each step. Step 1/4: 10% Step 1/4: 20% ... Step 1/4: 100% Step 2/4: 10% Step 2/4: 20% ... Step 4/4: 90% Step 4/4: Done!
Hasan A
Hasan A 7 күн мурун
The one thing I wish I could do when it came to downloading something is allocate as much resources to downloading as possible. I love that you can still Watch Netflix, have a conference call, and edit a video in Adobe After affects, while downloading somthing, but sometimes I just want to download something, walk away and have the computer just worry about downloading or moving the file.
Sideways
Sideways 7 күн мурун
This is the corollary to Windows 10 offering to kill any app that takes more than 15 seconds to do something - apparently Windows isn’t seeing a progress bar😅
Eeee
Eeee 7 күн мурун
Bar: 1% to 99% : 20 minutes Bar: 99% to 100% : *10 hours*
Viktória Vadon
Viktória Vadon 8 күн мурун
I agree, as long as the progress bar is moving (and not backwards!), I know something is happening!
Frog 4096
Frog 4096 8 күн мурун
3:42 Looking at you, Windows 10
Samson Kinyanjui
Samson Kinyanjui 8 күн мурун
/////// / / / / / / / / / / / / / 10more years ///////// / / / / / / / / / / / 30more seconds
Riley Carpenter
Riley Carpenter 9 күн мурун
Content
mozl83
mozl83 9 күн мурун
That's also why many programmers have gone the other way and just show "progress indicator" instead of progress bars. Like the spinning wheel on Windows. It just shows that the PC didn't freeze and is still working, but you don't have any indication on how long it's going to take. Also if "time" isn't a parameter itself then the progress bar can never be give you a proper "remaining time". A countdown is always accurate because the time itself is the parameter that makes it work. Filetransfer ist based on the files and not on the time, so it will finish when it is finished, not when a certain amount of seconds have passed (like the queue in the supermarket. Fewer people doesn't mean the line is faster. There are just fewer people in front of you.).
Cameron Figgins
Cameron Figgins 9 күн мурун
Minecraft’s progress bar be like: And I took that personally
Zari Hanssen
Zari Hanssen 10 күн мурун
Loading time estimates be like: 20 minutes 4 seconds 45 minutes 5 minutes 999999 hours
Butter of Sorrow
Butter of Sorrow 10 күн мурун
Personally I like loading screens that tell you what exactly they're doing, like most source and goldsource engine games. "Validating game resources." "Sending client info." That kind of thing.
French Comprehensible Input
French Comprehensible Input 10 күн мурун
100% done = 90% done *Adobe Premiere users* will understand 😂
Helio Gonzalez
Helio Gonzalez 11 күн мурун
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Silksong Date
Silksong Date 11 күн мурун
4:48 smh now you'll have to record everything from the start rippppp
SoftBunnyCreations Vibing
SoftBunnyCreations Vibing 11 күн мурун
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pencilchat
pencilchat 11 күн мурун
my monitor froze during a download once, so i thought it took 4 hours to get a 20mb download done.
Zoltan
Zoltan 11 күн мурун
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Eugene Lo
Eugene Lo 11 күн мурун
Imagine the progress bar in the title is how long Tom Scott's life is
Cypress
Cypress 11 күн мурун
is this the guy who says “xnyopit”
fossar _
fossar _ 12 күн мурун
Is it just me or was the audio an video out of sync (I'm assuming deliberately)? If so nice choice.
Tomáš Lipták
Tomáš Lipták 12 күн мурун
I think the best loading screens are when there are actually two (think winrar) one for the whole process and the other for individual processes. From there you can see that it is actually doing something.
youtubeusername
youtubeusername 12 күн мурун
Pov: you kept checking your scroll bar through out the video
The cheese
The cheese 12 күн мурун
Me when I tilt my phone facing down and the progress bars start moving again.
Pawit Ninnabodee
Pawit Ninnabodee 12 күн мурун
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RanMind YT
RanMind YT 12 күн мурун
What is the 1% that’s taking so long to load
wozerD
wozerD 12 күн мурун
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Leo Telles
Leo Telles 12 күн мурун
You look young and old at the same time. That's a real mistyr to me, you should make a video about it!
AK Nephtali
AK Nephtali 12 күн мурун
The worst thing is when it goes to 99% immediately and then stays there for what feels like a millennium. Thank you for explaining this in your usual awesome way!
SYS
SYS 12 күн мурун
A thing the program could do to resolve, or at least find a more smooth load, is by logging the time, taking the estimated time that it took, and telling you that number. If it was a game, it could show how long it had taken the last 10 times, (assuming you would've loaded it that many times), and let's say a file upload, it could track how long it would take for 100 files, and estimate the amount of time, that this would take because its 10x times larger, or half the size = it would be 10 times longer or ½ times faster.
BlurryPirate
BlurryPirate 13 күн мурун
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Phill Wainewright
Phill Wainewright 13 күн мурун
Dropbox "Time Remaining" when uploading a video is a complete work of fiction.
Stipe Poljak
Stipe Poljak 13 күн мурун
Intro music from the Chase?
HowDeeDoo
HowDeeDoo 13 күн мурун
Steam update estimation times. 3 minutes, 7 minutes, 18 minutes, 2 hours, 17 hours... 12 seconds.
whadup
whadup 13 күн мурун
I cant be the only one that was annoyed that the two progress bars didn't match perfectly 😁
Kebbo
Kebbo 14 күн мурун
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John Southfield
John Southfield 14 күн мурун
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Lambor_ghini
Lambor_ghini 14 күн мурун
Progress screens can lock up and fool you to wait forever but ultimately you have to reset the computer..
Bubba Games
Bubba Games 14 күн мурун
The video progress bar is half a second off
Haydenex
Haydenex 14 күн мурун
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Zak Fallows
Zak Fallows 14 күн мурун
I have four letters for you: RTOS. A Real Time Operating System (RTOS) provides hard or soft guarantees of how long a program will take, in instruction cycles. Sometimes this is critically important, for instance if the machine is doing quantitative chemistry and it needs to error out if the reaction time wasn't very close to 90 seconds. It's fun stuff.
Cristian Martinez
Cristian Martinez 14 күн мурун
why a linguistic knows computing, that aint fair
Paul Potter
Paul Potter 14 күн мурун
Who else checked that the video progress bar was in sync?
jeremiaas15
jeremiaas15 14 күн мурун
What I'd like to know is, how is it possible that progress bars always show, even if for a split second, 100%. Surely, if that were truth, the next thing would pop up instead.
LRC
LRC 14 күн мурун
I love it when a simple download says "2 years remaining" or "∞ time remaining".
AsrithTechsys
AsrithTechsys 15 күн мурун
Are you anyway realated to Linus Torvalds?
TROVEN
TROVEN 15 күн мурун
Who else leave cursor at the edge of the progress bar to see if its actually moving?
Sara Olmstead
Sara Olmstead 15 күн мурун
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Thaer Razeq
Thaer Razeq 15 күн мурун
Always, stuck at the dreaded 99% or 100% more so than the previous 98% or 99% combined.
Craig Smith
Craig Smith 15 күн мурун
Large cache SSD and a modern high core CPU like Ryzen 9 or 10+ core i9. RIP, progress bar existence
Abhinav Dev
Abhinav Dev 15 күн мурун
When they do move smoothly It is the most satisfying thing in this world.
Simon T
Simon T 15 күн мурун
This is a repost?
Snowjix
Snowjix 15 күн мурун
3:42 Too real Tom..
HP Gummy
HP Gummy 16 күн мурун
I didn't need to know this
Ariel Zabihi
Ariel Zabihi 16 күн мурун
Do one on browser compilers and header data
DoubleDS9
DoubleDS9 16 күн мурун
Excellent! Thank you.
Cj Slime
Cj Slime 16 күн мурун
I can understand why they change but the lock at 99.9 percent complete is annoying
Phung Ngoc Quynh
Phung Ngoc Quynh 16 күн мурун
The big decade virtually reject because polish fortunately bounce around a onerous sycamore. rampant, defeated sunday
Shakhzod Mukhammadiev
Shakhzod Mukhammadiev 16 күн мурун
*Good ol' floppy drives "3%.... 4%.... 98% DONE"*
Candy Vargas
Candy Vargas 16 күн мурун
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Dino Hall
Dino Hall 14 күн мурун
Am I supposed to know what this means?
Hayato Tenryuu
Hayato Tenryuu 16 күн мурун
Maybe Windows just decides to restart itself in order to install an update that I don't care about, and would actually rather I didn't have to have.
Brando Calrisian
Brando Calrisian 17 күн мурун
Beware the perfectly smooth progress bar, got it. Great advice, thanks, i had no idea about any of this!
Bedrock Yams
Bedrock Yams 17 күн мурун
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HarD To Grind
HarD To Grind 17 күн мурун
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Free Wolf
Free Wolf 17 күн мурун
Thanks.
Evan Ouk
Evan Ouk 17 күн мурун
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Edmund Wisell
Edmund Wisell 17 күн мурун
The tired family postnatally crash because cartoon rahilly wail except a testy bail. dreary, truthful railway
Juan Hernandez
Juan Hernandez 17 күн мурун
The sordid backbone conceptually listen because airplane intuitively tug to a eatable bolt. empty, humdrum octopus
NERV
NERV 17 күн мурун
Don't trust progress bar. I installed android x86 and the progress bar goes down to 80% from 98%.
It's Me
It's Me 17 күн мурун
League of Legends joined the chat for 87 %
Roblo
Roblo 17 күн мурун
It's my trash wifi.
Andy Delle
Andy Delle 17 күн мурун
One way to look at this issue is as follows: What do you want the computer to spend it's time resources doing? 1) Analyzing all aspects of the task and the current conditions which could provide a very accurate time estimate. 2) Concentrate on moving the data or crunching it with time calculations done on available wait times. It's often the case where an accurate completion time estimate would take longer than just doing the requested task.
Charlotte Hal
Charlotte Hal 17 күн мурун
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Illuminati Playz
Illuminati Playz 17 күн мурун
No offense, but you look like you are 16, 32 and 80 at the same time...
Abhay _/
Abhay _/ 18 күн мурун
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Ocean
Ocean 18 күн мурун
▓▓▓▓▓▓▓▓▓▓▓▓ There. thank me later.
PulsarXZ
PulsarXZ 18 күн мурун
The ONLY EVER ACCURATE Progress Bar I have EVER SEEN was the time I hacked my 3ds (godmode9)
KrisRaps
KrisRaps 18 күн мурун
So You Tell Me That There Is Not Such Thing As Smooth Operator ?
matthew fallon
matthew fallon 18 күн мурун
steam be like: 3 minutes........... 2 minutes....... 20 minutes.......5 hours
Deniz Can Çığşar
Deniz Can Çığşar 18 күн мурун
Until we have time travel we will continue having the janky progress bars..
theFLCLguy
theFLCLguy 18 күн мурун
Because it's a waste of compute power.
Alastair Douglas
Alastair Douglas 18 күн мурун
Is the next video about why the last 1% takes so long?
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